“I don’t want there to be any confusion over my leg volume and for anyone to think the size of my leg changed overnight, it didn’t! For eleven months before surgery I was diligent in getting my leg ready, compression 24/7, using my pump, MLD 3 times a week and I lost approximately 10 pounds in weight. In January 2014, I weighed 123-127(pounds), today I weigh around 115-117 (I’m 5’4″).
We do not have LDex readings, everything is done by measurements.
In June 2012, my leg volume was 9347, the volume of oedema was 674.
In January 2014, leg volume was 9766, volume of oedema was 1056.
On December 9, 2014 leg volume was 7801, volume of oedema was 220.
On August 4, 2015 leg volume was 7702, volume of oedema was 34. I’m reading all of this off a spreadsheet used by the PT in California.
My surgery date was 11th December 2014. As you can see from my numbers, I devoted all my time and energy to getting my leg as small as possible prior to having the procedure done. There is no way I would have been able to devote that much time to my leg on a permanent basis. Since having the surgery, I no longer need to do all of that. Though, I do wear compression during the day, MLD once or twice a week. Some weeks I don’t get any MLD treatments (either my therapist is away or I’m away)..It’s so important that people don’t look at this procedure as a miracle cure. Anyone who is thinking of having the surgery done, should know there is a lot of work to be done on their part, it’s not just the surgeon. Compliance is mandatory! ….. over the next few years I hope to see more improvement as the nodes grow. Slow and steady wins the race..” Cindy
I am reblogging this post to show just how difficult it is to look after a limb with lymphoedema… It takes a great deal of time and effort to keep it under control… Thanks for sharing with us
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Today was a typical day in my new normal: sleeping from 1 a.m. to 9 a.m. with many wakings due to lonely, mewing cat Benny, bad dreams and new screeching leg cramps; drifting in and out of sleep from 9 a.m. to noon; up until 5, then sleep until 9:30 when Tessa woke me to a fully prepared meal (made by her and Luka). That was a bonus and welcome treat. Now I will prepare for the new fun in my daily routine—bandaging my lymphadema arm.
I had been managing the lymphadema in my right hand, arm, breast and trunk very well since it was diagnosed in November last year. Twice daily self MLD (manual lymphatic drainage) massage, meticulous…
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This is a new update from Cindy after her surgery with Dr Granzow in December 2014. Always great to hear of people’s progress as this is a very slow process waiting to see results!! Any changes are good changes and give hope to others.
“Just got back from my post-op appointment with Dr. Granzow (in California). As I said, I was supposed to see him in June, but a personal loss prevented me from making that appointment. I am 8 months out from my December 2014 surgery. I feel wonderful. I am not using any nighttime compression. My right leg (the lymphedema one) is smaller in some areas than my left leg. There is no pitting. The overall volume difference between the right and left leg is 34 mil. In January 2014, the difference was over a 1000 mil. Unfortunately, around my knee area I accumulated excess fats and proteins under the skin. It is not fibrotic and it is not fluid, it’s just there. There is not enough there to warrant any type of lipo to remove it. I am still wearing my custom garment (Elvarex class 3) during the day and receiving MLD twice a week. I’ve chosen to be very conservative and let my lymphatic system really have time to heal. My plan is to cut back on MLD to once a week, then in a few weeks not wear any compression on Saturdays. As long as I have no swelling, I will maintain that for 6 or more months. Then I will go without compression on weekends. I’ve lived with lymphedema for 5 years, I am going to do everything possible to get the maximum benefit from this surgery. I sincerely believe that if I take it slow and not overwhelm my lymphatic system, I will one day be able to be out of compression more than I am in it. That is my longterm goal!
I flew for the first time in July. The plane ride was over 5 hours and I did not have any swelling (of course I was wearing my garment). Prior to the surgery, I was afraid to fly. Prior to the surgery, my leg still swelled even when wearing compression. I only started wearing a custom garment in November 2014. It was never suggested to me before. I always wore an off the shelf garment. I was led to believe custom garments were only for people who didn’t fit in off the shelf garment. False information!! I should have been in a flat knit from the very beginning. So much time is loss when you are trying to get treatment for lymphedema and that is a tragedy. Had things been addressed correctly, the fats and proteins would not have had a change to build up the way they did. Accessing MLD treatment is not always easy.
The psychological aspect of living with lymphedema is the hardest part (in my opinion). Always wondering what is going on under the skin. Praying the skin stays soft and pliable. Having to stay on top of it is exhausting. Ignoring it would be foolish.
Dr. Granzow and his staff are incredible. I know I am in very good hands. Any question I have is answered immediately. As incredible as it may sound, I am able to contact Dr. Granzow directly. My own research is what led me to Dr. Granzow. Being proactive is mandatory when you have lymphedema. Information doesn’t just come to you, you have to go out and find it yourself.” By Cindy
This is a link to Cindy’s surgery in December https://lymphnodetransplant.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/california-lymph-node-transfer/
Thanks so much Cindy for sharing your progress with others… Slow and steady wins the race!!! This surgery is not an instant fix and it can take a year to start to see the first signs of change and improvement. The new nodes grow very slowly so great patience is needed..
This blog does not replace advice and consultation with an experienced surgeon… Make sure to ask lots if questions and also find out about their pre and post surgery protocols…. Helen
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One node growing… But wish and hope there are more… Good luck xxx
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So I had my MRL on the 3rd july and just received some preliminary results this week. The surgeon says it is good news, that they saw one functioning lymph node on the MRL and this means that the flap is alive and working. I was a little disappointed that they didn’t see any more nodes as surely one node can not do what I need it to do. I know it is still really early days and there may be others there that were just not seen but it is so hard to be patient. I am hoping to have another MRL near to xmas time where hopefully they will see more growth from the free flap and the channels forming more pathways. Has anyone else had an MRL before and if so what did they see? I know i should feel so happy that the flap is…
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Last evening was another milestone–my first time in our community pool in 2 years!!!–It felt wonderful–Very ‘freeing’–no need for compression garment just pure freedom. My affected leg felt exactly like the unaffected leg…and guess what?–no one even noticed my leg. I had this misconception for the last 3 years that the whole world was looking at my leg but that is not reality. I had the feeling that my leg was so important to everyone and people would be staring at my leg but the truth is …it was only important to me which is still huge but it can not rule your life (It ruled mine for 3 years and I’m so sorry I allowed that to happen)….The mild compression the water provides is gently messaging your extremity and encouraging lymphatic drainage.
We have been having a miserable heat wave here in CT. for the past few days and the water in the pool was cool, clean, and invigorating. I paid for a new membership so that I could remain motivated to go to the pool at least 3 times per week and get that ‘feeling’ again. Hopefully, it is encouraging those new lymph nodes in my groin to grow big and strong.
Someone had written at one time that she wore compression garments in the pool. After discussing this point with Dr. Chang’s LE therapist and my therapist here in CT. I wanted to clear up the fact that compression garments in the pool are not needed. The water pressure provides that service to us. Thank God!! Liz
Previously I have written about Aquatic exercise and how good it is for Lymphoedema.. This link also includes videos of water exercises… Water is a natural compression and just walking up and down the pool is great for the legs as there is more compression at the feet and less going up the body… Just like a garment!! Freedom… Helen
Good morning everyone,
This is week 5 post op from Dr. Chang– I will be going for re-measurement of my left leg this week and I was told that prior to going for re-measurement, I should make the leg be as small as possible, so that I can get the max amount of support from the new Elvarex for which they are measuring me. The therapist told me to make sure the night before going I use the flexi-touch, then put on the quilted night-time garment on and on top of the quilted garment, wrap the comprilan wrap around the quilted garment…..I should go to her the first thing the next morning while I still have the comprilan wrap on so that I get measured at my lowest possible measurement and in this way, give full support to those new lymph nodes which are growing…..Wow–I guess they know what they are talking about..I even passed that by Dr. Chang’s therapist, Betsy.
By the way, I got my estimation of benefits, (EOB) 2 days ago for the cost of the surgery…anyone have any guesses on the cost of this surgery??? Thank God for insurance…
That is my plan for this week–the hottest days of the summer -in the mid 90’s..AND I have jury duty on Thursday—lol–keep on keeping on….Liz
Thanks for your latest update Liz.. It is great to hear your step by step progress… Thanks Helen
“We are now into the very end of week 3–This Friday makes it 4 weeks since the surgery for LNT and LVB with Dr. Chang. The good news is the ‘wraps are off’–YAH–now I am back to wearing the Elvarex during the daytime and under my workout tights to the gym. I will also wear the Elvarex to work under my scrub pants. I have seen the LE therapist here in CT and she did the MLD (also called the Complete Decongestion Therapy) on Tuesday of this week. That felt wonderful.Tomorrow with will be my first day back to the gym in 4 weeks.
I have been in touch with Lisa, RN at Dr. Chang’s office to ask a few questions and I have also sent emails to the LE therapist who works with Dr. Chang. I just needed a few things clarified. They did get back to me quickly. I should not be expecting a miracle overnight-within the year there will be changes and a reduction in volume. At least I have something to look forward to. All incisions have healed-I use the flexi touch apparatus at night and then I wear the quilted night-time garment to bed. When I wake up in the morning, the leg is soft. I then apply the Elvarex again and go about my day. I know I can not obsess about this. I have to let my body just do “it’s thing”–whatever that may be. I know in my heart I have done all there is to do for the LE and now it’s time to let my body take over and grow the ‘long roots of the lymph nodes’–lol-You have to have fun with this once in a while…On the discharge instructions it is stated that in a couple of weeks, I should get re-measured for new elvarex but I really don’t think I need to–the same size Elvarex I wore before my surgery are the same ones I am wearing now–they are still as difficult to get on now as they were then. I sit on the floor with my purple Playtex gloves/turn on the fan/ and sweat as I struggle to pull them up and fit them into the groin crevice!! OMG that was descriptive!!LOL. I’ll figure it out as I go and I always know I have a fabulous back up system when I need one. Someone out there from this blog will have an answer if I need one. You are all very warm, sharing, caring, people with a wealth of knowledge to share.
Tomorrow, I’m hoping the gym feels wonderful ….. My husband tells me to come to the pool with him (a community pool) but I’m not comfortable yet–eventually I will. Here is my one question–what brand of compression panty hose do you wear that can supply you with the same compression as the Elvarex? When I do wear panty hose, Jobst, which I seldom do because they eventually bunch around my ankle/knee/ groin, and I think they are doing more harm than good. I was wondering if anyone else had any ideas about a different brand other than JOBST medical compression?? Thank you-hope to hear soon–Liz”
Thanks for keeping us in the loop, great patience is needed now till there are signs of change… A softening of the leg seems to be the first change… Helen
The latest update from Liz….
“I am now 2 weeks and 2 days post surgery and Dr. Chang denied my email request to go to the gym!!!—Oh well-I had to try—I am allowed to go for a 2 mile walk and “build up to a 4 mile walk” but no gym yet–I have told him that the day I was discharged from the hospital my husband and I went into Chicago and walked at least 5 miles (I wore a pedometer)–it was a casual 5 miles but it was still 5 miles. Hey, I have to listen to him. I really respect his professionalism/ability and I believe I can be and want to be the poster child for LE. I pray every day for the best possible outcome for all of us and LE relief for all of my new-found friends on this blog.
The golf ball size swelling I had at the base of my neck where lymph nodes were removed has decreased in size and for that I am very grateful. It was a small accumulation of fluid which was reabsorbed into my own blood stream without any intervention at all– just patience. Every day is a new beginning for all of us including my lymph nodes–lol–Just like I talk to my beautiful blue hydrangea which have decided to bloom this year because we have had some rain, I also talk to my new lymph nodes which I hope are growing big and strong in my groin….God, I sound crazy but I’m just really excited!! I am hoping to generate excitement and proactive behavior in everyone who has LE–we are at the dawning of a new frontier for LE care..More providers are hearing of the procedures being performed–More insurance companies are approving of the procedures. We are a voice–I know this will happen in our lifetime! God bless everyone and keep hanging on.” Liz
Thanks Liz as always for keeping us updated and your resonses to others questions.. It is a great resource for others.. Helen…